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Now the pivot levels are calculated from the range of the prior day. As yesterday was a NR7 day, the pivot levels are still valid, but they are quite narrow. In this case I look at the average daily range of the last 10 days as a reasonable target. The ETH range target was already reached prior to the open. Today is a large treasury auction, so prudent market participants shifted their money from treasuries to stocks to protect themselves.
During the auction the large market makers support the auction, so there is no flows from treasuries to stocks. Average daily range is basically ATR correct? Good points and thanks again. Would you use the same 10 days for stop. The following user says Thank You to Fat Tails for this post: Last edited by Fat Tails; April 13th, at The following 8 users say Thank You to Fat Tails for this post: Affliction , cazimi , Cogito ergo sum , jcbtrading87 , rcabri , Robin Hood , rounder8 , sandptrader.
My tradingsessios start at See blue EU Session close.. This is also the time for me to calculate the macro indicator numberline - see table below..
Earlier I used for setup good Aup entry time confirmation from 2x5M candle close above Aup. I forgot to mention - I calculated the daily Pivot Range based on the data from 8: I know Fish says the OR should be placed in accordance to the domestic market of the traded product - but I prefer my approach for various reasons. Please register on futures. Has anyone noticed that is trading ACD , the issue of what to do when a significant narrow range day gets taken before the opening range is even set?
It makes for a confusing dilemma. It is a volatility break idea developed during a trending market. To me the reason The Logical Trader is still a good book to read is because it teaches the difference between running a system vs random trades with no context. Like Fish says in one of those nymex videos If I see a flag, I take it, unless it is some total and utter rubbish. Swing trades I trade trends on flags and that is it.
That is my "system" that filters out what to look at for me. ORB is nonsense though at this point. It is pit stuff. Moving pivot avg will work as well as the random line theory thread on this board. Fish even admits that.
It is a recent thread, thank you for the information. The link is here: I have another project to locate these breakout values, based on the daily noise level moves from the open that failed as a breakout. I also use the 3 day rolling pivot range on my 60 minute chart to locate major support and resistance. The indicators of the thread are MetaTrader indicators, I cannot read them.
Maybe you could post some charts and explain, how you use the opening range and the A and C values. I have also worked on the Logical Trader approach and coded an indicator, which automatically displays pivot range, opening range period selectable , and A and C values.
The charts attached show the price action of yesterday for TF and CL. I am not convinced that the method, which dates back to the 's can be traded today without modification. My A and C values do not match Fish's values. But they include a dynamic component - the daily ATR 's. My daily bias is based on Fish's Numberline concept acc. My original member name is banned - maybe because the empty postings.
That 5 Posting rule is useless. Why are the C levels generally further away from the opening range than the A levels? Definition on page C values will vary depending upon the commodity or stock traded.
In commodities, C values are different than A values see A values. In stocks, A and C values are the same for each stock. If the session close is below C down - the macroindicator Numberline value would be As far as I remember the book and videos - A is never bigger than C.
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