Just finished pip school and now going through it a third time. I really want to thank you all for putting it up. I've been studying trading books for a couple of years and almost gave up on the idea of trading as nothing I read gave me enough confidence that I knew enough to even start a demo account. That and I didn't know about forex and the fact that you can start with smaller account. I've always been the type that wanted to work for myself and be self reliant. In fact I've been working for myself for the last eight years or so.
But, I'm always looking for something that has a much larger potential should I become skilled in it. That is, something that isn't limited so much by outside forces and things out of my control. Searched all over the internet and the same thing, people trying to scam you for k for a, "guaranteed system.
Finally someone in another forum suggested this site for learning. I read about forex before, but never in a grade by grade progressive method like in baby pips. Ahhhh how can you make money when something goes down!!!
Here is short selling as I understand it: You sell a pair in the belief that it will go down. Then when it goes down you buy it back and your proft is the difference in between the two.
If so that much I get. Whats been rolling around in my head for the past couple of days is this. Say you have an account that is currently flat. You think USD is going to go down. How do you short from a flat account? And another question, if it's not to much for one post Is it usual for forex traders to trade both the up and down trends, that is going long and shorting and taking profits in both direction?
Forex Basics Learn Forex Trading. Which equals selling the USD in their acccount? Then when and if it goes down as expected they buy a currency pair that has USD as the base.
So, the trader has in effect sold USD and bought it back at a lower price later, so the difference is their pip profit? I guess I'm looking for clarfication on how short selling, in order to make a profit, is done from flat account. Hi, It doesn't matter which currency your account is in. When you sell a pair any pair , you are sorta like borrowing the currency of the first, to buy the 2nd, using your deposit account margin as collateral.
Then hopefully you close at a profit where you repay the borrowed currency and the gain is put back into your deposit account or deducted if you have a loss. Ok, please explain to me how you go short to make a profit, not a stop loss on USD from a flat account. This whole market is about exchanging one currency for another. You keep saying you want to short USD, but that also means that you want to buy another currency which one?
The same goes for buying too, you have to sell another currency to buy the one you're guessing will go up. Keep in mind this is all done with contracts. The contracts are obligations to exchange currencies at certain prices, and price movements create debts or credits to your account as the price moves away from the price you are obligated to exchange it at.
Price is for example 1. You notice a portion of your margin is used. Wait for price to go down. You made 10 pips worth of profit.
Sometimes there is confusion that you needed to have bought the pair sometime prior before you can sell it. When you short currencies, you are buying the 2nd currency of the pair. That's what I'm trying to understand. I understand going long. Wait for it to go up and then sell.
As far as shorting from a flat account what I'm asking is: And this would equal selling USD and Then buying it back at a lower price? I realize this sounds stupid, only stupid question is the one you don't ask right? I believe that is the answer I was looking for thank you. If you are anyone else has anything else to add to further clarify that would be great. My mind doesn't seem to want to accept the idea of short selling for profit because of it's contradictory nature.
To be blunt, you are going to need more confidence in yourself if you want to trade successfully. The market is all about emotions and the charts can lull you into a state of fear or greed, which usually erodes any rational decisions you try to make.
Demo accounts are risk free, just what are you waiting for? You can click all the buttons and watch numbers fly all you want and you'll be learning a lot while you do it! So please do yourself a favour and look into some brokers with free preferably unlimited demo accounts! Confidence and emotions aren't problems at all. I havn't run a demo account yet because I just want to learn a little more first so I know what it is I'm looking at.
Inevitably I'm sure looking at a demo account will just raise a bunch of little questions. I just wanted to get a few small ones that may seem stupid to the more experienced out of the way first. I'm taking everything in the babypip school very seriously. Last night I started a demo account with oanda to play around.
I now understand the basics of short selling. I just wanted to add to this thread for any noobs like me who didn't understand the same thing. I know technically you are buying and selling at the same time when you purchase a pair, that it what threw me I guess. The term "short" is used in forex, but it doesn't work the same way as it doesn't in the stock market. I believe that's what's confusing you.
Remember that currencies are listed in pairs. Like you said, you're not really buying or selling a "pair," but individual currencies at the same time. No Phil, buying or selling a pair refers to the first currency. Explain FX short selling to a noob please Beginner Questions. Answer to your question can be found right here.
Yes, I already read that that a few times. Still can't wrap my head around it. To restate my question and my confusion, here is the scenario I'm playing out in my head. This was my misunderstanding, how I thought shorting worked: First you buy the pair, then sell it, then buy it back, then close the trade. I also thought buying and selling worked like that: Instead of buy, then closing when you hit your mark.
I always concider it selling something before you own it.More...